tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post4765277167254228156..comments2024-01-30T07:41:20.885+00:00Comments on Broken Barnet: In Memoriam - at a price: welcome to Easycrem ... Capita's money making plans for Hendon Crematorium beginMrs Angryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-78386530143810536122014-05-07T22:25:07.211+01:002014-05-07T22:25:07.211+01:00Yes, Anon: I believe a Capita: the movie is in pro...Yes, Anon: I believe a Capita: the movie is in production, as we speak ...<br /><br />Thank you for the tip, Red Sonia. I believe Abroad has always been a reliable source of red bloodedness,and a refreshing contrast to the lukewarm ditherings of Englishmen lurking about in the Home Counties, waiting for their online purchase from Pfizer to drop through the letterbox. I must renew my passport.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-24228068246316327562014-05-07T18:58:04.984+01:002014-05-07T18:58:04.984+01:00
Brilliant video!!!
What next..... A single, Lat...<br /><br />Brilliant video!!!<br /><br />What next..... A single, Later with Jules?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-26324896586011636722014-05-07T15:41:30.779+01:002014-05-07T15:41:30.779+01:00No, you have to cross the Channel for hot blooded ...No, you have to cross the Channel for hot blooded men like that these days or wait for an EU immigrant to slip (perhaps literally) under the radar into the UK ... <br /><br />But relieved to hear you are sticking to your principles!Red Sonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-40608179218159588642014-05-06T22:08:36.724+01:002014-05-06T22:08:36.724+01:00Desperate though I may be for attention, Red Sonia...Desperate though I may be for attention, Red Sonia, and believe me, I am, I am not likely to bestow my favours on a Barnet Tory, or indeed any Tory, although clearly some of them would relish the prospect. Probably the only sort I appeal to now. <br /><br />Have you any men in Somerset going spare, with all their own teeth, some degree of lingering sexual urge, and don't vote UKIP? <br /><br />I thought not.<br /><br />I suppose you have to go to Devon and Cornwall for that sort of thing.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-77562444956831294482014-05-06T21:37:12.942+01:002014-05-06T21:37:12.942+01:00Bloody marvellous: Tories can hype themselves up ...Bloody marvellous: Tories can hype themselves up 24/7 and blatently lie through their expensively privately glowing perfect gnashers at election time and that's just them being - what - reprehensible little shits actually.<br /><br />And as for you, Mrs Angry - you are SO naughty because you must have done something truly shocking to get Mapledown School on the Barnet Tory agenda just in time to blog about it before the election!<br /><br />Come clean: which of them was the recipient of your favours!Red Sonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-74839467795864933382014-05-06T21:30:37.791+01:002014-05-06T21:30:37.791+01:00
Surely it is sensible to completely ignore the co...<br />Surely it is sensible to completely ignore the comments of Mr Hope who never attempts to make a constructive contribution,apparently only capable of voicing vile right wing opinions often not relative to the items he chooses to abuse. Judging by his bullying right wing analysis of everything non Tory,it is fair to suggest he wholeheartedly supported Cornelius and co over the last four years in their refusal to consult with Barnet residents on any subject including One Barnet. Therefore as he feels like Cornelius and his team those with differing views to them,have no right to an opinion or a voice. Is it not time this sad little unimportant nobody was ignored completely.Because from where I am standing as the parent of a 50 year old disabled daughter who attended Mapledown, who has parents and a young brother and many friends buried at Hendon. His opinions are not worth a minutes thought, so why give life to the comments of this nasty little nobody by responding to his right wing crap. Your time is far more valuable being used informing us Barnet residents of the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, which is what you do. Something this little Mr nobody <br />appears to be incapable of doing.John Sullivannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-83495802448550463312014-05-06T18:11:41.812+01:002014-05-06T18:11:41.812+01:00The only reason I am publishing these comments, Da...The only reason I am publishing these comments, Dan Hope, is so people see what a little shit you are, and how typical of the Barnet Tory mindset: no empathy, no understanding ... if you bothered to read the piece properly, you would see that it is my mother who has the misfortune to be scattered over the 'memorial garden' at Hendon Crematorium, not my father. Only you, or one of your sort, could not see how offensive your remarks were, but then that is of no surprise to me.<br /><br />Sorry to spoil your blathering comments with a factual response, but I have been writing about the Capita plans for monetising the Crematorium, since they outlined them in the contract: see the link to the post entitled 'The Loved Ones'.<br /><br />And really: I wrote about Mapledown as soon as I knew about it. Clearly the plight of disabled children is of little interest to the Barnet Tory sensibility, where the profit motive rules all else.<br /><br />If all these chickens are coming home to roost now, that is no conspiracy, but the logical end to years of neo-Thatcherite misrule by a bunch of swivel eyed loons masquerading as Conservatives. Your kind of people, in short. Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-15801383386727718842014-05-06T15:27:54.409+01:002014-05-06T15:27:54.409+01:00Mrs A I am sure you have very strong and loving fe...Mrs A I am sure you have very strong and loving feelings for the memory of your Father. Who would have the audacity to challenge that? That really isn't the point and you know it well!<br /><br />What I am challenging is firstly your sudden interest in missing benches (that you have publicly derided the local media for reporting on this past year!) and the fact that this old story about the professionalisation of the services at the Crematorium is suddenly run by with emotion laid on thick 16 days before the election.<br /><br />Really would have expected a stream of articles with you, in detail, explaining why Labour is worth a vote. Maybe you, like your dwindling band of bloggers, just can't think of any good reasons to vote for them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-77065912578795598082014-05-06T15:22:51.816+01:002014-05-06T15:22:51.816+01:00MadAxeMan,
Those who know Mrs A in these parts kn...MadAxeMan,<br /><br />Those who know Mrs A in these parts know her to be a robust and stalwart campaigner to get the Labour Party elected in May. <br /><br />She'll have to answer why these sudden outbursts of 'genuine fury' over this and Mapledown School have come to be on her blog not when the decisions were taken but a few weeks before the election and how managing neglected and often rotten wooden benches is 'profiting from the dead' more than pretty much all funeral arrangements. Do the Coop do free 'not for profit' funerals?<br /><br />Am sure it's just a coincidence...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-2905683302093939862014-05-06T13:09:04.338+01:002014-05-06T13:09:04.338+01:00Daniel,
I've met Mrs. Angry on more than one ...Daniel,<br /><br />I've met Mrs. Angry on more than one occasion, and this bit about being willing to exploit the dead for political purposes? I don't recognise that description of a woman who has indeed tirelessly devoted herself to her community, and the fight to preserve it.<br /><br />Mrs. Angry is god's gift to scrutiny - particularly of things that others definitely don't want scrutinised. Is this why you don't get along?<br /><br />I confess, I too am a blogger - and not that it's any of your business, but I won't be supporting either Labour,the Conservatives or the Lib Dems. Opinions vary, but in my opinion, the above parties do not deserve support.<br /><br />However, were Mrs. Angry to put herself up as a candidate down there, and were I to live in the area, Mrs. Angry would have my vote without question.<br /><br />Public life needs more people who actually care.<br /><br />madaxemanhttp://madaxeman.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-44978687758807729662014-05-05T23:53:57.271+01:002014-05-05T23:53:57.271+01:00The English way of death is confused, I think, by ...The English way of death is confused, I think, by self consciousness, at what is really a taboo subject. In other traditions, Catholicism, Judaism, death is observed in emotional outpourings, wakes, and ritual mourning, not a tight lipped service and a glass of sherry afterwards. Local authority cemeteries can be run perfectly well: the place where two of my aunts are buried in Durham is run by the local council in exemplary style, and is beautifully maintained, discreet, with a great deal of effort taken to create a respectful and attractive environment. The difference is perhaps that it has always been a Labour controlled authority, and values a sense of community and history above profit and ideology.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-45351630848099766792014-05-05T23:24:06.021+01:002014-05-05T23:24:06.021+01:00I feel your fury, Mrs A, and I share it. Big money...I feel your fury, Mrs A, and I share it. Big money is moving into the death business bigtime and too many local authorities are ceding their crematoria to the private sector. New crematoria are springing up everywhere and, of course, the bereaved are being exploited. The bereaved comprise an eminently exploitable sector, grief being what it is. Oh, and of course, there's money in benches -- and other 'memorialisation' products. <br /><br />Over and against this, the public sector does, actually, have some questions to answer. Service values have not been as high as they might, best practice has not been shared as it ought, and the terrible business at Mortonhall has highlighted a very grievous neglect of the needs of parents who have lost a baby. <br /><br />This can be put right, and it in no way invalidates your argument that to feed the bereaved to sociopathic big business is manifestly wrong.Charles Cowlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06757185376546920527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-31215489239413860232014-05-05T21:47:59.007+01:002014-05-05T21:47:59.007+01:00And as for you, Mr Hope, you are beyond words: the...And as for you, Mr Hope, you are beyond words: the fact that you can read this and think that my feelings about the place where my mother's ashes were scattered, and my other relatives,are some sort of 'playing politics' says so much about your own nature, and your own lack of emotional response. What a vile thing to say. Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-12186536280332954572014-05-05T21:39:16.097+01:002014-05-05T21:39:16.097+01:00Anon 20:18 - of course there are financial incenti...Anon 20:18 - of course there are financial incentives. Why else is Capita involved? Why are crematoria so appetising to the outsourcing industry? Because there are easy profits, in a market which self evidently is guaranteed to continue to prosper, when all else fails.<br /><br />I can assure you there was no health and safety risk in any of the benches I saw, and the notices on the benches made no reference to condition, merely to the proposed 'development' of 'memorialisation'. <br /><br />And yes, I like lichen, and the weathered look, and I like wandering around overgrown churchyards, and I don't want to see them tarted up and turned into ghastly corporate spaces, manicured like some sort of golf course.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-76129905087053014542014-05-05T20:46:17.480+01:002014-05-05T20:46:17.480+01:00Mrs A is there really so little you can think of t...Mrs A is there really so little you can think of trumpeting about your party's election campaign that you - in a coordinated attack with your pro-Labour blogger buddies - sink down into the gutter to play politics with the dead?<br /><br />You and Roger writing the desperate articles and the increasingly preposterous Mr Reasonable tweeting the story at national media figures and broadcasters.<br /><br />Spinning and twisting a mundane story about managing benches into accusation of 'selling the dead' for a few Labour votes is the surely the worst type of negative campaigning?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-25026711911033785522014-05-05T20:18:56.044+01:002014-05-05T20:18:56.044+01:00As well as his own "typos" many authorit...<br />As well as his own "typos" many authorities lease memorial benches, with the offer to renew both bench and lease. Hardly an arrangement in perpetuity, but certainly not preposterous as he suggests.<br /><br />Where he is correct, the controlling authority must have the ability to manage and maintain said memorial, if only to condemn its condition. And it is for this reason you will no doubt find the Capita coffers ringing their approval. Pardon the pun, but should said memorial not reach the required Capita benchmark then it is reasonable to assume they are requesting further monies and/or making space for new memorials.<br /><br />Whether they themselves are additionally investing in the upkeep of the graveyard to equal standards I will leave you to decide, along with the validity of condemning various benches which may for example be structurally sound, but equally may not fit Capita's 'gleaming' corporate image. In other words there are no doubt financial incentives to condemn each and every bench and as often as possible. Or as Daniel 'No' Hope might put it, a policy which "your laid back Council staff buddies" could only dream of, assuming of course money was the ulterior motive.<br /><br />One assumes therefore (heaven forbid) that Capita will equally apply the 'lichen test' to the headstones and will shortly be jet washing everything in sight, perhaps even including the trees, except who would pay? Call me old fashioned...... but I like lichen and the weathered look and neither would stop me using a bench.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-87429143846839422682014-05-05T20:16:18.219+01:002014-05-05T20:16:18.219+01:00You get a "virgin" plot only if you are ...You get a "virgin" plot only if you are related to a Crapita employee or a majority councillor perhaps, the rest of us getting "pre-used".<br /><br />Or maybe it's "Virgin" plots and reserved for Richard Branson and his family! ... at a price.Red Sonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-28859959123834710902014-05-05T18:38:28.693+01:002014-05-05T18:38:28.693+01:00I think the implication about my grandfather's...I think the implication about my grandfather's grave is that I could buy the plot above (a cheery thought)- although I suspect my grandmother paid for both, and the family forgot about it as she died much later. There are rather creepy references in the contract to pre-used and virgin plots, so God knows what they have in mind.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-69767733772440525532014-05-05T18:19:16.944+01:002014-05-05T18:19:16.944+01:00They are throwing out the benches so how long befo...They are throwing out the benches so how long before they throw out the remains, and sell the plot on to others.<br /><br />When you are dealing with uncaring money grabbing companies such as Capita, it would be as wrong to assume the plot is for life . Have no doubt they will be keeping track on unvisited graves over the next couple of years, the digging them up and flogging them off.<br /><br />They might say different but what is to stop them, after all such a question would be deemed contractually sensitive.lJohn Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-28897919655718412322014-05-05T17:57:10.440+01:002014-05-05T17:57:10.440+01:00God, I hope no one from Crapita picks up on your &...God, I hope no one from Crapita picks up on your 'Hotbenching' idea ... what next? Hot plotting: laid to rest for five years guaranteed, then turned out to make room for a new resident, unless you pay a premium? The possibilities are endless. Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-59398783091138404642014-05-05T16:26:23.039+01:002014-05-05T16:26:23.039+01:00Will we be renting benches by the day/week/hour - ...Will we be renting benches by the day/week/hour - or maybe "hot benching": one name on a bench one day, another name the next ...<br /><br />These seats were often paid for by a grieving spouse who would visit regularly - then the spouse dies, no-one else cares or knows, but other people, similarly grieving, use them too - something that the spouse would have found comforting surely.<br /><br />But, wooden benches do have a natural life and I have an answer! On a local seafront, wooden benches, lashed by storms last year , have been replaced by plastic benches that look like wood.<br /><br />Now, personally, I prefer the natural materials BUT just to be bloody-minded I would love to donate one at Hendon, knowing it might last for a hundred years needing no attention or maintenance, being no health and safety hazard (I well remembet when I once brushed against a bench and almost -well nothing...) and watch Crapita squirm as it realises it isn't going to make any money out of me!!!Red Sonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-3090798825198132192014-05-05T14:13:44.351+01:002014-05-05T14:13:44.351+01:00Only a Tory, and someone as totally insensitive as...Only a Tory, and someone as totally insensitive as you could leave such remarks: really, even by your standards this is awful. I can't be bothered to reply in detail: read the contract section that deals with the ways in which Capita proposes to screw money out of bereaved residents. As to your second comment: quite obviously the investment which was not made in regard to the new incinerators, years ago, when the problem was first raised, is nothing to do with staff, but a political decision.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-67198593353635709502014-05-05T13:21:44.064+01:002014-05-05T13:21:44.064+01:00Surely a typo, "In fact, why has the Cremator...Surely a typo, "In fact, why has the Crematorium, its incinerators, and its grounds, been neglected, over so many years, by our Tory council?<br />"<br />should read<br /><br />"In fact, why has the Crematorium, its incinerators, and its grounds, been neglected, over so many years, by our the indifferent in house council staff?"<br /><br />Unless you are seriously suggesting that a strategic policy decision was taken over how benches at a crematorium by Councillors?! Why do you always let your laid back Council staff buddies off the hook? Private sector can do no right, in your eyes, but the precious public sector can do no wrong?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-91160912076798323732014-05-05T13:17:08.545+01:002014-05-05T13:17:08.545+01:00"|It is no doubt the case that when these arr..."|It is no doubt the case that when these arrangements were made, it was on the understanding that this was a permanent act of memorial." - what evidence do you have for this preposterous claim? Maybe the inept in-house staff possibly gave such an impossible commitment? <br /><br />Looks possible that Capita have for the first time actually thought about how these benches are to be managed. Isn't it about time? Why has the situation be left to rot and decay under in house provision? Why not ask that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com