tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post5290575624259684053..comments2024-01-30T07:41:20.885+00:00Comments on Broken Barnet: Breaking Point - and a lesson from history: voting for a better future in Europe Mrs Angryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-69892507342716097952016-06-27T14:12:46.712+01:002016-06-27T14:12:46.712+01:00Great post Mrs A and in a size that I can actually...Great post Mrs A and in a size that I can actually read, sorry that I have only now got round to reading but events iykwim ;-)<br /><br />I was shocked on Friday morning and have been spitting feathers ever since. Here we are after a momentous vote up shit creek without a paddle and the politicians that should be doing something about are too busy back biting or hiding and the major mischief maker, who you mention in the blog, is nowhere to be seen, doubtless in some place well away from the scum that his rhetoric encouraged.towy71https://www.blogger.com/profile/17385691259489936354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-84029065027883041642016-06-24T21:14:06.659+01:002016-06-24T21:14:06.659+01:00Mrs A , I must say that I found myself with very m...Mrs A , I must say that I found myself with very mixed emotions regarding the referendum, I think none of our politicians covered themselves in any glory! Perhaps if they had done there job properly & not followed what we are now used to in Barnet & that is just take the money & do bugger all , so what we ended up with in Europe was a super capiter, unaccountable and answerable to nobody , but it didn't have to be that way if we had a priminister with a back bone & a brain then maybe just maybe Europe would have had a chance ! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-66924392960608485912016-06-23T14:09:46.012+01:002016-06-23T14:09:46.012+01:00Well, that is kind of you. It is a load of ramblin...Well, that is kind of you. It is a load of rambling nonsense really - but from the heart.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-74453477059398314582016-06-23T10:44:17.942+01:002016-06-23T10:44:17.942+01:00I think this is your best post to date. I can only...I think this is your best post to date. I can only thank you for your humanity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-32332811837286990862016-06-23T10:11:18.423+01:002016-06-23T10:11:18.423+01:00And Red Sonia: yes, the lowest common denominators...And Red Sonia: yes, the lowest common denominators - the weapon of choice of all demagogues. The cynicism with which the Leave campaign leaders have exploited the most base instincts in the rush to secure votes, as part of their own domestic political agenda is simply beyond contempt.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-44600416731890378442016-06-23T09:54:14.526+01:002016-06-23T09:54:14.526+01:00Well, Jim: you have obviously thought long and har...Well, Jim: you have obviously thought long and hard about this matter, and given a careful and honest explanation of your reasons for voting as you will - but I cannot agree with you.<br /><br />There may be an argument for restriction on economic migration, or not - but this is not the point, or at least the point I was trying to make. <br /><br />The referendum has been directed by the Brexiteers so as to exploit the underlying bigotry of too many voters - a xenophobia that in some cases tips over into outright racism. Worse still, the Leave campaign has conflated the issue of refugees 'flooding' Europe with the issue of free movement between member states, without any reasoned debate about the economic benefits, or drawbacks.<br /><br />The Farage poster was the last straw, and gave us all we need to know about the dark motives underlying this campaign: what happened o Jo Cox tragically served to underline the same inconvenient truth.<br /><br />The next most convincing argument for me to vote Remain was the leadership of the Leave lobby: just look at them, and what they stand for, and what they have done. Do you really feel comfortable supporting any move so desperately promoted by such people? I don't.<br /><br />Neither you, nor I, nor Farage, nor many millions of other Britons would be alive today, if our families had not sought refuge in this country, at some point: whether fleeing poverty or injustice matters not to me. <br /><br />And we do have a duty to help others, whether in our own immediate household, or beyond the garden wall. <br /><br />We are citizens of the world, not little Englanders, and humanity has - or should have - no boundaries.Mrs Angryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00586223909475832791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-74803730014558828062016-06-23T09:25:07.659+01:002016-06-23T09:25:07.659+01:00As usual, all about money and furriners. That'...As usual, all about money and furriners. That's what this country has been reduced to - its lowest common denominators.<br /><br />One by one Bojo, Gove and Farage stripped (many of) us of humanity, compassion and consideration for the plight of those in dire distress because of the actions of those same people who seek to demonise them.<br /><br />The hatred and vile contempt of those drooling blood with their contempt of those with differing views to theirs has made me ashamed to be English.<br /><br />Red Sonianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6371203489316363738.post-14410238436498541442016-06-22T23:27:37.948+01:002016-06-22T23:27:37.948+01:00I love reading your blog despite the fact that I h...I love reading your blog despite the fact that I have escaped Broken Barnet. You often make me laugh and just as often seem to say exactly what I feel about the subject matter in question. <br /><br />But not this time I'm afraid. <br /><br />You seem to be linking "kindness to strangers" to our membership of the EU as if in some way our exit from this would somehow prevent immigration and our borders would immediately be closed, never to be opened again. <br /><br />What happened in your touching story about Lilija, (not her real name I know), is that you chose to go and help her, (and well done to you for that), but what didn't happen is that you weren't forced to help her. To my mind that would be a more reasonable comparison between your experience on that day, and the shambles that our immigration policy has become within the EU. <br /><br />I read a Telegraph article today that stated that the UK population was projected to rise from approx 64.6M in mid-2014, to 74.3M in 2039. <br /><br />Of that approx £10M rise, (according to the ONS), 68% is directly or indirectly attributable to immigration, (51%), and (17%),immigration through it's effects on births and deaths. <br /><br />I just want to know where this £10M people are going to live for a start. I want to know who is going to pay to build the houses that will house the £6.8M newcomers to this Country? I want to know where their kids are going to go to school. I want to know which library they will be a member of, (oh no, wait. Cancel that. Barnet Council are working hard on that as I write).<br /><br />I too am a product of an immigrant family, (Irish Father and Scots Mother), and it might very well be selfish of me to have this opinion, but I have it nevertheless. I want what is best for my child and what I see happening doesn't fill me with optimism. I am scared. Am I really scared? I have never written or said that about this subject before and it has surprised me that it came out, but yes. I think I am. <br /><br />I started off this process undecided and then teetered towards leave, then back to undecided and then back again to leave. The Jo Cox incident had a significant affect on me and I thought to question my own judgement and maybe put someone else's ideals before my own. Someone "better" for want of a better word. I then veered over to remain for a few days. And then I heard Cameron and a load of other....... people speak and I was enraged. I was enraged as nuch with Cameron and his cronies as I was with Farage and soe of the despicable things that the leave campaign have had the gall to do and say. <br /><br />Again I was undecided, (but felt like I was being pulled ever closer to leave, (because whether rightly or wrongly, that's how I feel for a number of reasons even if I worry that I am selfish, (or blind to the financial perils involved). <br /><br />"Which politician do I like?" I thought? Nope. Can't think of many and none that seem to be commenting about this. And then.... Alan Johnson was on TV. "Oh, I like him" I thought to myself. He was articulate and eloquent and even simple in his communication, (I like simple when I am struggling), and he again dragged me kicking and screaming over to the remain side. <br /><br />But no. I just can't do it. It's not what I feel. It's my vote and even if I think that better people than me think we should remain, (and a bunch of people I have little wish to associate with at all think we should leave), I still find myself wanting to vote leave tomorrow. <br /><br />Can we be better than we are now and still leave the EU? I certainly hope so, because I don't think we are very good right now.<br /><br />Jimbokavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13831069296285018965noreply@blogger.com